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Some US Election Day 2014 Horoscopes

Election Day 4 November 2014

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The Real US Horoscope-Asking the Best Questions

Asking the Best Question

04 July 1776: The Sibly Chart

The Sibley Chart is often cited by astrologers as THE chart of the United States

The question of which US horoscope works best to describe involves more than the United States. As the colonies evolved into a nation-state, new applications of Enlightenment ideas took hold. One argument revolved around government’s responsibility to its citizens and vice versa. The evolution continues to play out down to our time. When the colonies took the bold step of independence from the Crown, it began a new volume in history that revolved around what is a nation and what does it owe to its citizens. One reason the ‘real horoscope’ choice proves so difficult lies with the fact the US experiment was the first of its kind. It would, along with the French Revolution, begin a new chapter toward nation states and away from the more tribally oriented system of dynasty and marriage.

Birth of Nations

Generally speaking, the modern nation state is a legal entity created by the nation for the purpose of regulating itself through the means of a constitution. The nation itself may be considered to be a group of people who share a common heritage, language and culture, and who physically occupy a particular geographical location. Obviously there are many instances of nations who have no state, such as the Palestinians, the Basques or the Kurds, and of states which contain more than one nation, such as the Soviet Union and the United States. but the general pattern holds.
Nicholas Campion, Mundane Astrology, p.97, copyright 1984

This single paragraph answers so many questions (while raising a few more), not just for the US but for the many nation-states founded since the American Revolution. In the case of the United States, this paragraph solves one argument if we accept the premise that the Declaration of Independence was a declaration of nationhood as well as separation from the crown. The problem with nations previously recognized as such, England, France, Lithuania etc., comes from their organic evolution into nation status. Europe’s foundations are tribal. The evolution to the nation in the 18th Century followed the path from tribal to nation status. The United States on the other hand evolved from the well established nations of Europe and in the secularly minded nature of the time; the founders penned a contract proclaiming the birth of the nation. France on the other hand evolved through a complex lineage of tribes turned into manors, manors into monarchy, with all the drama in between. In this stage of evolution from tribe to nation, the nation became embodied in its monarch. In fact, as Mr. Campion observes in the same chapter, The National Horoscope, astrologers cast charts for head-of-state, so tied was their destiny to the affairs of the enterprise. In essence, the Declaration not only broke from the king, but made astrologers break the connection as well. The national horoscope became tied to the nation rather than to its leader.
This distinction does not always solve the problem of when a nation begins in cases such as England or Portugal, but in the case of the United States, the Declaration of Independence indelibly etched the national signature of what we colloquially call Americans into history.

Nation versus Nation State

The quote above implies a nation does not always become a state, as in the case of the

15 November 1777: Articles of Confederation

The Articles of Confederation (AOC) was the first attempt to define and run the government of the united states of America.

Kurds and Palestinians. This implies that the nation-state differs from the nation, which may still take a variety of configurations. For instance, Scotland and England are still nations, but operate under the nation-state of the United Kingdom. In the United States the evolution from nation to nation-state occurred within a little over a year, when the fledgeling nation devised the Articles of Confederation. This points to assigning this date, 15 November 1777, championed by David Solte, who rectified its signature to 12:46 pm in York, PA. Some, of course, will advocate for either the signing or ratification of the United States Constitution. Each on thisĀ  side of the discussion have valid points.
For now, however, I think we need time for the points in this query to sink in.

4 March 1789 US Constiution goes into effect

Some consider the US Constitution as the “birth” of the nation.

Is Your Nation a Nation-State?

  • What does the connotation of the difference between nation and nation-state mean within the confines of mundane astrology?
  • Does each horoscope deserve different interpretation according to function?
  • What is the function of the nation versus that of nation-state?
  • Does the nation serve the nation-state or the other way around?
  • Can we apply this “formula” to every question about which national horoscope provides the best insight?

It all comes down to asking the best questions. What would you ask?

 
 
 

2012 Elections

Excellent and thorough, Frank. I like the systematic approach and elimination of distracting current rhetoric. Your use of astro-cartography toward the end shows me that it does have some value although I much prefer Johndro’s methods whic
h although a bit tedious are quite precise. I agree that the invisible planets (Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto) are not part of the traditional dignity scheme but I do think they have their own adjunct set of dignities and can be used in a traditional manner. For the national chart I prefer Sibley and he has served well but, each has his preference and historical justification. I can only cite tradition and performance. I like your inclusion of the eclipses and ingress, and the focus on Mercury changing station. I do generally use a different house system but usually that doesn’t make much difference. These are technicalities but do bear on the delineation.

Based solely on the Sibley chart, the ingresses, and that of the sitting president, I have already made my predictions which include the aftermath through 2014. I’ve been fooled by opening of the polls charts too often in the past. Simply using candidate charts is also often misleading. I have some confidence in my findings using this approach, of course, that could be misplaced. Logic is an excellent way to go wrong with confidence. Yet, observed developments appear to be supporting the expected developments. I did also take the comet 96P.Macholz into account (perihelion 23 Cancer 07/14/12) and don’t yet have the data on the approaching predicted bright comet of 2013. Anyone else use comets ?

Maybe I missed something but I don’t recall seeing a conclusion to the analysis. What are you predicting specifically based on these charts ? Does the current administration continue ? How do conditions change or do they ? Any insight into economic and diplomatic repercussions or is there no significant change ?

If the inauguration were a medical horary (the client or patient as the nation), how would we judge the complaint and its cause and what prognosis would we give ? As time permits, that might be a fruitful exploration. Very different approach but maybe useful.

Keep up the good work, Frank. We’ll see how things turn out.

 
 
 

Opening a blog on US horoscopes

Hi. This is Tony Dickey, user name, deek. I’m opening this blog on US horoscopes. There are many and I don’t think they have ever been truly tested. This site will give us a place to post horoscopes, discuss and improve our ideas about which horoscope best fits the United States of America.

Lots of work to do, so I’m keeping this short. I’m way open to ideas and really have no idea how this will end up. You can join in by registering as a subscriber.

 
 
 

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